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		<title>By: vu2swx</title>
		<link>http://brainstorms.in/?p=240&#038;cpage=1#comment-1610</link>
		<dc:creator>vu2swx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@kannan

  Have you seen this place
http://wikimapia.org/456562/Oolampara-Junction</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@kannan</p>
<p>  Have you seen this place<br />
<a href="http://wikimapia.org/456562/Oolampara-Junction" rel="nofollow">http://wikimapia.org/456562/Oolampara-Junction</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kannan</title>
		<link>http://brainstorms.in/?p=240&#038;cpage=1#comment-1608</link>
		<dc:creator>Kannan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude..you are so negative..eew. you will beat typical malayalis in case of negaholism.Whatever you say about your own contribution in free software community, your blog is nauseating. People say when they use free software, they notice a gradual behavioral change, you seem like the &quot;secret MS office user&quot; urself. Your superficial 1) 2) characterization is too shallow and a typical rip-off off pattern seen in blogs of gnu/linux users albeit badly done.STFU you insecure idiot..if u indeed are a free software contributor you are a trojan. Hope you die a painful death and see you in hell. until then tata :-) ..Cheer up constipation is quite treatable..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude..you are so negative..eew. you will beat typical malayalis in case of negaholism.Whatever you say about your own contribution in free software community, your blog is nauseating. People say when they use free software, they notice a gradual behavioral change, you seem like the &#8220;secret MS office user&#8221; urself. Your superficial 1) 2) characterization is too shallow and a typical rip-off off pattern seen in blogs of gnu/linux users albeit badly done.STFU you insecure idiot..if u indeed are a free software contributor you are a trojan. Hope you die a painful death and see you in hell. until then tata <img src='http://brainstorms.in/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  ..Cheer up constipation is quite treatable..</p>
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		<title>By: BipinDas</title>
		<link>http://brainstorms.in/?p=240&#038;cpage=1#comment-1599</link>
		<dc:creator>BipinDas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 06:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sir,

I am not a linux expert. But learn something from the experience. I had read your pages and felt bad on fsf guys. I like to write in malayalam,then only I can express my feelings. Please take a look www.samadhanam.co.nr

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sir,</p>
<p>I am not a linux expert. But learn something from the experience. I had read your pages and felt bad on fsf guys. I like to write in malayalam,then only I can express my feelings. Please take a look <a href="http://www.samadhanam.co.nr" rel="nofollow">http://www.samadhanam.co.nr</a></p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: usman</title>
		<link>http://brainstorms.in/?p=240&#038;cpage=1#comment-1597</link>
		<dc:creator>usman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deep, You are correct. Both are equally important. Power users like  Sound and Video Editors, Musicians, Electronics simulators, CAD Users , How they can switch to Free software, is there any stable utilities available in free software?? Please try  to understand Free softwares have only  mp3 player, vlc player, open office , firefox thats all, it covers only 2 or 3% of computer applications. In server side free software is king, no doubt, but in application side it is big zero.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deep, You are correct. Both are equally important. Power users like  Sound and Video Editors, Musicians, Electronics simulators, CAD Users , How they can switch to Free software, is there any stable utilities available in free software?? Please try  to understand Free softwares have only  mp3 player, vlc player, open office , firefox thats all, it covers only 2 or 3% of computer applications. In server side free software is king, no doubt, but in application side it is big zero.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenney</title>
		<link>http://brainstorms.in/?p=240&#038;cpage=1#comment-1596</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats the most sensible reply I have ever seen. 

&quot;Promoting Free Software and pointing out the lack of freedom of proprietary software are equally important and inseparable.&quot;

Pointing out is different from doing hate campaigns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats the most sensible reply I have ever seen. </p>
<p>&#8220;Promoting Free Software and pointing out the lack of freedom of proprietary software are equally important and inseparable.&#8221;</p>
<p>Pointing out is different from doing hate campaigns.</p>
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		<title>By: Deep</title>
		<link>http://brainstorms.in/?p=240&#038;cpage=1#comment-1595</link>
		<dc:creator>Deep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started using Free software right from the days it started being used and as early as one could afford to buy a SIVA PC ! That was in 1994!!
Even today we dont have a professional sound recording software that can compete the efficiancy of Protools (On MAC) or Nuendo (On Windows). This is year 2008!! We have had 14 years of free software and still this has not happened. We have still got only self built drivers for most of the professional audio cards. When free software was passion for us in 1994 today it has just become a fashionable word! I want my work done. I have waited for 14 years. When windows came in 1994 it was said to be unstable and stupid for multimedia. Mac ruled supreme. Today windows XP is stable and it has overtaken the mac in many multimedia applications.
And what has become of mac? It now runs on intel platform!!!
Siftware is not an area for fanatism or blind faith. We have to acknowledge this fact. Free software is not the holy grail. Take the good things it has to offer and acknowledge the good that propreitary software has to offer. Use both as needed. Stop this hyprocrisy. When u use propreitary software have the spine to acknowledge it. It&#039;s like going to a prostitute in the night with a mask on your face and then giving a lecture in public against it during the day!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started using Free software right from the days it started being used and as early as one could afford to buy a SIVA PC ! That was in 1994!!<br />
Even today we dont have a professional sound recording software that can compete the efficiancy of Protools (On MAC) or Nuendo (On Windows). This is year 2008!! We have had 14 years of free software and still this has not happened. We have still got only self built drivers for most of the professional audio cards. When free software was passion for us in 1994 today it has just become a fashionable word! I want my work done. I have waited for 14 years. When windows came in 1994 it was said to be unstable and stupid for multimedia. Mac ruled supreme. Today windows XP is stable and it has overtaken the mac in many multimedia applications.<br />
And what has become of mac? It now runs on intel platform!!!<br />
Siftware is not an area for fanatism or blind faith. We have to acknowledge this fact. Free software is not the holy grail. Take the good things it has to offer and acknowledge the good that propreitary software has to offer. Use both as needed. Stop this hyprocrisy. When u use propreitary software have the spine to acknowledge it. It&#8217;s like going to a prostitute in the night with a mask on your face and then giving a lecture in public against it during the day!!!</p>
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		<title>By: navaneeth</title>
		<link>http://brainstorms.in/?p=240&#038;cpage=1#comment-1593</link>
		<dc:creator>navaneeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Change cannot be in a single day... slowly it will. After the installation of gnu/linux everyone searching for non-free codecs like mp3 etc. And even our gnu/linux is running over a patented hardware. so wait for a change... we can do it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Change cannot be in a single day&#8230; slowly it will. After the installation of gnu/linux everyone searching for non-free codecs like mp3 etc. And even our gnu/linux is running over a patented hardware. so wait for a change&#8230; we can do it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Gaskin</title>
		<link>http://brainstorms.in/?p=240&#038;cpage=1#comment-1588</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Gaskin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems like many of the people at that conference are blissfully unaware of what&#039;s happening. 

I like to compare proprietary software to dietary laws. If an employer wants me to use windows, it&#039;s like offering beef to a Hindu or pork to a Jew or Muslim.

They&#039;re treating Free Software as if it&#039;s just another brand of software, and it&#039;s all good. It ain&#039;t all good. 

Promoting Free Software and pointing out the lack of freedom of proprietary software are equally important and inseparable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems like many of the people at that conference are blissfully unaware of what&#8217;s happening. </p>
<p>I like to compare proprietary software to dietary laws. If an employer wants me to use windows, it&#8217;s like offering beef to a Hindu or pork to a Jew or Muslim.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re treating Free Software as if it&#8217;s just another brand of software, and it&#8217;s all good. It ain&#8217;t all good. </p>
<p>Promoting Free Software and pointing out the lack of freedom of proprietary software are equally important and inseparable.</p>
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		<title>By: Jayson Joseph Chacko</title>
		<link>http://brainstorms.in/?p=240&#038;cpage=1#comment-1587</link>
		<dc:creator>Jayson Joseph Chacko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JavaFX runtime is not free. Check out the revised Sun binary license,

http://www.java.com/en/download/license.jsp

It says,

&quot;Unless enforcement is prohibited by applicable law, you may not modify, decompile, or reverse engineer Software....&quot;

It goes on to exclude the JavaFX runtime specificially from the open source material,

&quot; Sun grants you a non-exclusive, non-transferable, limited license without fees to reproduce and distribute the Software (except for the JavaFX Runtime),&quot;

It is clear that Sun wants to extract the benefit of projecting something as open source free software and at the same time wants to hold on to the runtime as proprietary software. They are just waiting to see how it turns out. :-)

As we have already seen in the FSFS conference Sun is able to market JavaFX (think about the publicity they got) as a free software even though it is proprietary. That is what I call stealth marketing and I don&#039;t know how that is in anyway different from Novell&#039;s idea :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JavaFX runtime is not free. Check out the revised Sun binary license,</p>
<p><a href="http://www.java.com/en/download/license.jsp" rel="nofollow">http://www.java.com/en/download/license.jsp</a></p>
<p>It says,</p>
<p>&#8220;Unless enforcement is prohibited by applicable law, you may not modify, decompile, or reverse engineer Software&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>It goes on to exclude the JavaFX runtime specificially from the open source material,</p>
<p>&#8221; Sun grants you a non-exclusive, non-transferable, limited license without fees to reproduce and distribute the Software (except for the JavaFX Runtime),&#8221;</p>
<p>It is clear that Sun wants to extract the benefit of projecting something as open source free software and at the same time wants to hold on to the runtime as proprietary software. They are just waiting to see how it turns out. <img src='http://brainstorms.in/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As we have already seen in the FSFS conference Sun is able to market JavaFX (think about the publicity they got) as a free software even though it is proprietary. That is what I call stealth marketing and I don&#8217;t know how that is in anyway different from Novell&#8217;s idea <img src='http://brainstorms.in/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: vu2swx</title>
		<link>http://brainstorms.in/?p=240&#038;cpage=1#comment-1586</link>
		<dc:creator>vu2swx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 07:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Frank Jennings
   Your reply is cut and paste from the javafx site. Do you have any finer details. Some one on the list is telling that run time is proprietary</description>
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   Your reply is cut and paste from the javafx site. Do you have any finer details. Some one on the list is telling that run time is proprietary</p>
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